Season 2 ep 2 reaction post
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franklin_bash20 or so minutes to ep 2, ladies (and any gents out there too!).
Our quick synopsis: Jared and Peter try their first manslaughter case when they defend a wannabe crime fighter (Sean Astin) accused of chasing down a man who later died. Meanwhile, Peter's mom (Jane Seymour) arrives with some news that results in a change of living arrangements for her son. And Pindar seeks Carmen's help in battling his phobias.
Sean Astin and Mama Bash. :D How much more fun can you get.
I won't be here for the live reactions tonight. But i'll be around to catch the repeat or else the download. Whatever i see or get my greedy little paws on first.
Reactions, gripes, general silly and spoilers galore down below in comments.
Have fun and i'll catch you guys later! I can't wait to read the comments again! *waves and runs off*
Our quick synopsis: Jared and Peter try their first manslaughter case when they defend a wannabe crime fighter (Sean Astin) accused of chasing down a man who later died. Meanwhile, Peter's mom (Jane Seymour) arrives with some news that results in a change of living arrangements for her son. And Pindar seeks Carmen's help in battling his phobias.
Sean Astin and Mama Bash. :D How much more fun can you get.
I won't be here for the live reactions tonight. But i'll be around to catch the repeat or else the download. Whatever i see or get my greedy little paws on first.
Reactions, gripes, general silly and spoilers galore down below in comments.
Have fun and i'll catch you guys later! I can't wait to read the comments again! *waves and runs off*
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Date: 2012-06-13 05:09 am (UTC)Bullet points!
-Peter's mom. Everything that Jane Seymour did was gold.
-Damien and Peter's mom. Everything from how he seemed even more into her as soon as he learns that she's Peter's mom to the couch scene, which was just amazing.
-Jared and Peter's mom. Jared totally has an odepidial thing going on with her. Head canon is that he used to go over to Peter's house when they were kids because Jared's mom was never really "there" for him, but Colleen would shower him with affection, let him join in during brownie making time, tell him he was growing into such a fine young man, etc... and then as Jared got older he realized that Colleen was pretty hot and... confusing feelings followed. (and stayed with him til today)
-Peter backstory of being pigeon toed, wetting the bed until age 11, and being breast fed until age 8. Poor Peter. Also, divorced (or maybe never even married?) parents. Did we know that or was it just fanon? I wonder if Peter had two homes? Maybe his mom was on the good side of the tracks and that's how he met Jared? But then he spent most of HS with his father on the other side of town?
-Jared is totally turning into a hard ass lawyer and Peter knows it "You're going to break his heart, aren't you?" It still hurts Jared to do this... Peter, you have time to save him before he's lost completely!
-Janie! Yay! But boo to her not getting married anymore. Is it because her demon-ness got sucked out?
-I don't know what's up with Pindar's story line. I think I'm offended by it...?
-Needed more Carmen and Hanna. Per usual.
-OMG. Next week. Why isn't it Tuesday again?
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Date: 2012-06-13 02:56 pm (UTC)OH GODLKDHSfoihwoiejfldhfsf. <3
Pindar's storyline is a bit rubbish yes, I couldn't be bothered to care, but it seems pointless as much as everything else.
And yes, oh god there are so many possibilities for Peter's dad, I wonder if he was all hippy-ey as well.
I love PEter's bracelet, that's not really to do with anything but I DO.
And I bet Jared had the MOST BEAUTIFUL teenage issues of fancying Colleen EVER and it is something Peter is vaguely aware of and they just DO NOT SPEAK OF, and I love them together I LOVE THEM.
I sort of want to see Colleen near Leonard and just HATING him now too.
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Date: 2012-06-14 09:09 am (UTC)Well, we know that he may have installed drywall. I wonder if his dad and mom were total opposites. Like he was this straight lined blue collar working man's man. And Peter doesn't want to be like either one of them. He kinda wants to be like Leonard, even if he'd never tell Jared that.
I so want Colleen and Leonard to interact. She'd probably have such stern faces with him. About how children should be raised.
I need to pay more attention to Peter's bracelet. Yes.
And I bet Jared had the MOST BEAUTIFUL teenage issues of fancying Colleen EVER...
And once Jared tried to casually bring up how totally hot Coleen was and Peter just scrunched up his face 'Dude... that's my mom.' and Jared never brought it up again, but Peter can tell he's thinking about it and they have eye conversations that basically amount ':( my mother, Jared.' and 'I know, but come on Peter, look at her'.
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Date: 2012-06-16 01:53 am (UTC)Ah, I had totally forgotten that! Yes. Oh, that's quite brilliant, if he was not hippyey, and Peter was sort of pulled between them a bit, and came out all free love like his mom, but able to fix things like his dad. I want Peter being randomly good at plumbing and putting up shelves and making Jared sort of laugh at him and sort of just all 'TOUCH ME RIGHT NOW' about it.
Jared tried to casually bring up how totally hot Coleen was
Yes:):):):):):) Because Peter got his comfortable with nakedness STRAIGHT from his mother, so there's no way she bothered to cover up around Jared, not after they'd known him for years and he was basically like another son, and Peter had to have teenage strops at her about how she was ruining his life, that boiled down to 'PLEASE, IT MAKES HIM BLUSH AND I CANNOT COPE WITH HIM LOOKING AT YOU, HE IS ONLY ALLOWED TO LOOK AT ME' except in teenage language that was probably like 'YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE STOP IT I HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR'.
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Date: 2012-06-17 11:49 pm (UTC)boiled down to 'PLEASE, IT MAKES HIM BLUSH AND I CANNOT COPE WITH HIM LOOKING AT YOU, HE IS ONLY ALLOWED TO LOOK AT ME' except in teenage language that was probably like 'YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE STOP IT I HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR'.
And Colleen would be like 'Well, I don't know what's gotten into you. It must be all those hormones and everything.' and just wander off nonchalantly and Peter is left to simply die.
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Date: 2012-06-13 07:17 am (UTC)Highlights;
- Peter's mom is epic. Seriously, she should have stuck around longer because Colleen/Damien? Definitely needs to be explored more for the sheer awkwardness of it.
- Peter constantly getting c-blocked by everybody and then c-blocking himself because he just HAD to talk to Jared (about the case, but whatever)
- Ignoring the joking/sarcastic way in which it was said, Peter would give Jared his jacket which needs to be written right now (hint hint, lovely F&B fic writers, hint hint)
Sean Astin was awesome. 'Nuff said :)
Lowlights for me;
- Pindar's storlyline seems to have kinda popped out of nowhere. I mean, they've always been pushing him to conquer his phobias but... I don't know. Something just feels weird to me.
- Janie not getting married, even though I knew it was coming. Is it weird that after Jared's commments, I kind of want Jared/Janie now?
- Jared turning slowly into a corporate machine. I very much dislike this. Fingers crossed it's not permanent.
NEXT WEEK! Sooooo excited for Breckin's writing and he and Seth Green paired up once again and in one of our favourite shows!
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Date: 2012-06-13 07:44 am (UTC)Yes. ^_^ And how please with himself Jared looked the first time.
Peter would give Jared his jacket
That part was so adorable. Peter wants to make sure that Jared isn't too cold. Aww.
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Date: 2012-06-13 03:04 pm (UTC)OH GOD THE LOVELY JACKETNESS. OH GOD. There is NOTHING not perfect about Jared being wrapped up in Peter's clothes for any reason ever. I LOVE THEM.
Jared turning slowly into a corporate machine. I very much dislike this
I don't like it but I a bit like it, I sort of love it because of the HURT, and kjdosfihoweijfsdfs. Yes. Peter will mend him and make it okay.
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Date: 2012-06-14 06:47 am (UTC)You know Peter was having a little h/c fantasy right there. Like, 'oh, Jared? you're cold? here, take my big, warm jacket. poor thing.' and then maybe thinking about stroking Jared's hair a bit.
I seriously need some canon-ness of Jared wearing Peter's clothes.
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Date: 2012-06-16 01:42 am (UTC)ILU
What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 01:23 pm (UTC)Like, what is the deal with Pindar’s college blondie? Where did she get the idea from that she can fix Pindar? I hope it turns out that she’s a certified therapist or something, because right now I think she’ll endanger Pindar’s mental health even more.
Just turned out she has a restraining order filed against her. This … show, what the frack are you doing? Pairing one character with mental health issues with another character with mental health issues? Just no. If you decide to include serious issues like this, do it with the dignity and respect it deserves.
And Sean Astin’s character? That just feels wrong … I really think his character would be better served in a mental hospital. Something’s off with him, and I think he needs help.
The cave’s layout confuses me endlessly. Why did they change everything and pretend they didn’t?
Jane Seymour is still a really beautiful woman, but I don’t like how they use her character to embarrass Peter all the time. However, I do like that Jared’s not the slightest bit surprised that Peter was a bed-wetter till he was eleven.
Also, why is Janie still in the show? And why did they write her postponing the wedding? I don’t want her to become a love interest for Peter again. That part of his story is over and done, you hear me?
The case with the superhero breaks my heart, and I feel like it’s my fault. I demanded more drama in the survey TNT let us fill out. I didn’t mean heartbreaking cases, though. I meant more drama with Jared and Peter and their personal lives. Like daddy!issues (omg, is Peter’s mom being embarrassing for him my fault as well?!?), or Jared taken hostage. I didn’t mean Jared breaking his client’s heart on the witness stand.
Apparently, the Janie-storyline isn’t over and done with. Why, show, why?
I love the fact that Jared knows what pre-cogs are. I love Jared.
I think I actually like Peter’s love interest.
So, I think I have figured out why they make Jared a badass lawyer all of a sudden. Every time he has to break a client’s heart, or be mean to him, he loses a bit of himself, and towards the end of the season he’ll decide it’s not worth it, and will want to leave. And Peter, who’s been worried all season long over how hard Jared takes these cases, will be conflicted because a) money, partner, steady life, and b) Jared’s happiness.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 01:37 pm (UTC)I agree! I think that's where they're heading with it too. Peter knew what Jared was going to do as soon as he stopped Peter showing the evidence. I think Peter knows what Jared is capable of, even if Jared's not happy about it, I think he chooses not to be like that because it's too much like his father, but it's still there.
Also Officer Wendy is really rather hot. I might've made noises at the beginning *g*
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 03:02 pm (UTC)Yes, absolutely! That is one of my favourite things about Jared. Among ALL my favourite things about Jared.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 06:58 am (UTC)It's like fate. And Jared knows it. And, headcanon, that's why he went pre-med instead of pre-law. And why he wanted a small, not corporate law practice, helping the underdogs. Because he knew that being a hard ass, blood thirsty, snake of a lawyer is in his blood. And he's doing it all because he knows it's what Peter wants, what'll make Peter happy. It's all so tragic.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 08:39 am (UTC)And yet Peter's heart is breaking because Jared's going down a path he really doesn't want to...
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 08:52 am (UTC)In the end its all about the both of them. We're just getting a nice little arc with them getting their ethics challenged greatly. Whatever happens, will be glorious to the bromance, but i'm wondering how much closer it'll throw them. Cause i can't see Infeld splitting them up, no matter what Daddy Franklin has up his sleeve on why they were hired.
Jared will come out stronger and probably figure out how to win(or steer) those cases without being a bastard, with Peter right behind him every step of the way. Cause that's how our lovely boys roll.
*both fingers crossed behind my back*
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 09:01 am (UTC)And then I'll shout at Peter to make it all better.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with it and unless they completely jump the shark, it's going to be awesome.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 03:00 pm (UTC)I REALLY HOPE THEY'RE GOING HERE, I LOVE IT SO HARD IF THEY'RE GOING HERE. I think it has to be something a bit like this, only with extra huge daddy issues on top, and lidhfoiwefs.
They did totally manage to make Peter's love interest not totally boring, but there's nothing about her that will make me sad not to see more of her. Although MPG kissing people is always LOVELY, there could be more of that.
But not with Janie.
And you're right about the mental health/pindar stuff, I'm just not letting it bother me because I can't be bothered, but it's rubbish and sort of nothingy all at once.
Maybe next time they have a survey we'll have to be more clear with our wishes in the write in boxes, we can give them bullet point lists and they can just fulfil them all.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 04:48 pm (UTC)OH GOD I WATCHED THAT BIT SO MANY TIMES!!!! And and the way he decided she wasn't biting his lip too hard *HEAD SPLODEY* He got that from Jared - just saying'
And amen on the daddy issues, I have a feeling there's going to be some shit going down come the end of the season and I will be all \o/ and then all sweaty because we'll have to wait NINE months to find out what happened (I am of course assuming that they'll give us a S3) - they will give us a S3 right? *clings*
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 05:04 pm (UTC)I love all the ways Peter touches people because my head just edits it straight into touching Jared and that is AWESOME. Also OH GOD HE IS SO BEAUTIFUL, HIS MOUTH AND HIS SKIN AND HIS WHOLE FACE AND HIS MOUTH.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 05:50 pm (UTC)He kisses with his whole body. I can imagine Jared getting overwhelmed by the awesomeness of that.
I need some MPG icons...
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 06:47 pm (UTC)He kisses with his whole body
MMMMNGNNSMGMNNDNNMMMMMM. Yes. Yes. I love him.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-13 07:24 pm (UTC)I think cable works differently to network tv? I don't know, but Leverage is on the same station and they get to choose when they stop. Bit that might be because the guys producing it actually fund it too..
And I"ve watched that scene AGAIN...I don't think I mind that being the opening scene very much at all *g*
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 03:39 am (UTC)I'm not going to lie, I fast-forwarded through all of Pindar's backstory once I got the gist. I feel kind of like how Jared reacted. "Well, that's..." *walks away*
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 06:55 am (UTC)I didn't ff through it, but, yeah, same reaction as Jared to the whole Pindar thing. I'm getting such uncomfortable vibes from it... like when you know there's going to be a car crash and you're just waiting for it to happen.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 09:19 am (UTC)I think the problem with Sean Astin's character might have been Seas Astin? Like... I think it could have worked out, but Sean just didn't have enough fun with it maybe? They either needed to dial it back, or ramp it up a whole lot more.
I also can't deal with Janie and her whole deal. There is no amount of why that expresses my feeling about it.
It's like the whole cave is backwards. So much oddness.
I felt so bad for Peter. Totally embarrassed for him. Also, I think Jared already knew that Peter was a bed wetter til eleven. Like, dude, we totally had sleepovers at that age. I didn't care then, I don't care now. Which is adorable.
If they do not go for the obvious terrible, terrible angst of Jared basically turning into his father I will simply die. They have to be going for that. How could they not have that?
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 08:27 pm (UTC)There are things I really don't like this season, and I know we are only 2 episodes in so we have much more to see, but so far I'm quite uncertain overall...
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-16 01:38 am (UTC)Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-16 01:41 am (UTC)Yes! I sort of ended up thinking this as well, he didn't seem to really fit in and it was hard to know if it was a badly written case, or the acting, but I think it was probably a little of both. I hated the guy whose super hero power was stopping women from going home drunk with guys because . . . because so many things.
Jared being lovely to Peter about him being embarrassed by his mum, was just like seeing a snapshot of Jared doing exactly that at every stage of Peter's ENTIRE LIFE, and I LOVE HIM SO MUCH.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-17 11:44 pm (UTC)Oh, I know... that guy was so gross. Like, I get what they were going for, but it ended up being really, really ugh.
I can see it happening. Colleen probably even showed up at school a few times, totally humiliating Peter by shouting out something terrible in the hallway, and while everyone else snickered, Jared would just pat Peter on the back and lead him into class and comfort him by making up something similar about someone famous and it wouldn't be until years later that Peter finally realized that all those "facts" were just Jared trying to make him feel better.
Re: What I wrote during the episode
Date: 2012-06-14 08:29 pm (UTC)If this was a thing it might break me inside.
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Date: 2012-06-14 04:38 pm (UTC)-I love how Jared makes of every opportunity a chance to touch Colleen.
-JARED-BEAR, SHE CALLED HIM JARED-BEAR!! That's much better than Dimples.
-Colleen's look when she saw Peter and lady cop (I'm just gonna ignore her name like Colleen did) was amazing ::points finger::'What's this?'
-I love how Damien was like 'Is this happening? Is someone seeing this? Is there a camera hiding somewhere?' YES, DAMIEN, IS A TV SHOW, we're enjoying your bewilderment.
-They spoke at the same time! That's how connected they are
-I'm really hating the music from this episode
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Date: 2012-06-14 06:52 pm (UTC)I kept forgetting about this, but oh so adorable!
Maybe the giant stuffed bear is Jared's psyche splitting from too much stress, so he reverts to a childhood comfort zone. Part of him literally becomes Jared-Bear.
Also, Damien was just the most adorable-est thing ever in that couch scene.
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Date: 2012-06-16 01:29 am (UTC)Part of him literally becomes Jared-Bear.
THIS THIS BASICALLY JUST THIS. I love everything that Bear might be and the entirely different but still so so awesome show that we could have if they just ran with it.
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Date: 2012-06-17 11:35 pm (UTC)I hate that tptb don't (probably don't anyway, we could be pleasantly surprised) realize what a goldmine they've stumbled across with Bear. I'm still holding out hope for an amazing webisode thing to happen during the hiatus.
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Date: 2012-06-16 01:31 am (UTC)And yes, to Damien's WHOLE EXPRESSION OF WONDER AND CONFUSION AND BRILLIANCE. SO MUCH LOVE.
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Date: 2012-06-14 08:18 pm (UTC)I think that little stumble backward was the least graceful thing I have EVER seen Peter Bash do. Also, me no liking him Wendy.
Jared interrupting all like ‘BITCH get off my boyfriend’ haha *sobbing*
“You have some sucking to do.” HAHAHA OMG OMG Sucking of Jared okay? HEADCANON
OMG MAMA BASH OMG ugfjdlhfueashifdsa
Jerry bear? Is that what she said? THAT IS THE BEST THING.
OMFG SUPERHERO!! Look at their faces <3 They’re just like, 'my life is complete'
Running in suits NNG
Also, how is Peter so unfit when he is as fit as he is?
I like them wanting to take this case. Honestly? I think that it’s because of the cock up that was last week. They need a case like this to get them back to normal.
“Do you work for Peter?” bahaha, I’m still pissed at you from last week Hanna
Also, I absolutely LOVE that Mama Bash is bringing lunch for our boys! It just makes me think of them when they were little and her bringing them sandwiches and just feifhdsdhjas BABY BOYS <3
“Inside out salami sandwich”, “Tied it myself” OH GOD. OH LORD. I’m just sitting here crying like fuck omg stop being so perfect BABY <3
HE WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM HIS JACKET OMG LET ME DIE
OMFG Stanton as the Wizard of OZ grrrfnnnsns
Okay, okay. The Wendy/Peter (OMG just got the Peter Pan reference!) is sort of cute. I might like her if it was a platonic relationship lol
“You need to talk to Jared.” Does this happen often....???!?!
Was Damien really insinuating that he slept with Mama Bash? Or am I hearing things...
I love whenever Peter and Jared are in a lift. It brings back happy season 1 feels <3
GOD I MISSED THEIR BANTER
Aaaand done! Good episode!
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Date: 2012-06-16 01:57 am (UTC)And laksdhfoiwjefsdf, Peter being all scared on the roof and Jared jumping at him OH GOD SO MANY PERFECT PERFECTIONS OH GOD.
I did not understand their lack of fitness at climbing stairs. No.